That helps with time, but not so much with the money LOL.
I am getting ready to make several parts orders.
Seems some parts delays are invietible.
Like we have gone back 30 years with this stuff.
OH2BFOX ( 1990 Lx Foxbody build)
- Thread starter Ohtobbad
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I am getting ready to make several parts orders.
Seems some parts delays are invietible.
Like we have gone back 30 years with this stuff.
S197CS
Corner Carver
Yeah, Anything is hard to order this year. Seems like the reality of COVID shutdowns/slowdowns around the world is hitting every supply chain. Same here trying to order stuff for my bikes or detailing products. Annoying
When I was speaking to Maximum Motorsports engineer,
he said sales aare way up, car guys stuck at home with covid,
people are doing more car projects. So makes oredering anything harder.
They have supply issues with some of the things they build.
They esitmated 10 weeks when I ordered,
Normal would be 2-3 weeks,
Some items out of stock when I am looking.
I was looking for torsen differential, that might be a problem.
We will see. I have decided to start ordering everything
sooner so I have it, besides US dollar is decent now.
Normal would be 2-3 weeks,
Some items out of stock when I am looking.
I was looking for torsen differential, that might be a problem.
We will see. I have decided to start ordering everything
sooner so I have it, besides US dollar is decent now.
S197CS
Corner Carver
Very Good idea to order sooner. I am sure it'll strain the budget/cash flow in a different way than ordering at the ''normal time'', but at least you'll end up with the parts you really want, when you do indeed need them.
I hope you have good luck with Torsen as well and you can at least procure.
I hope you have good luck with Torsen as well and you can at least procure.
TrueBlue02058
Post King
Will be a Beast when you are Finished Trevor ???
helimech
Well-known member
Check Dasilva for the Torsen... I think they have the T2 standard on the Boss 302. CND as well
So got a hold of Daliva racing in Ontario.
and ordered rear-end parts.
Torsen T-2R Bias differential
Ford Racing 3.73 ring pinion gear set.
Ford Racing complete C3 bearing Kit.
31 Spline 5 lug axles.
they told me 2-3 weeks,
I have a feeling I will be told longer tomorrow
on the Torsen Diff, we will see.
and ordered rear-end parts.
Torsen T-2R Bias differential
Ford Racing 3.73 ring pinion gear set.
Ford Racing complete C3 bearing Kit.
31 Spline 5 lug axles.
they told me 2-3 weeks,
I have a feeling I will be told longer tomorrow
on the Torsen Diff, we will see.
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The dilemma I have now is spindles.
I have been told 4 different things.
All quality sources lol
Maximum and Gerry recommend 04 spindles.
This will dramitically increase brake set up pricing.
Fox body guy who has done 4 coyote swaps
says stay with cobra set up.
Guy from Dasilva says say with stock spindles.
Dadsilva tells me, easiest one for new brakes and saves
about $1000 on brakes. Willwood has new set up for this already
( they have done 15 coyote swaps.
I need more expert advice ???
I have been told 4 different things.
All quality sources lol
Maximum and Gerry recommend 04 spindles.
This will dramitically increase brake set up pricing.
Fox body guy who has done 4 coyote swaps
says stay with cobra set up.
Guy from Dasilva says say with stock spindles.
Dadsilva tells me, easiest one for new brakes and saves
about $1000 on brakes. Willwood has new set up for this already
( they have done 15 coyote swaps.
I need more expert advice ???
67 AGAIN
Enthusiast
At the risk of repeating something I may have said before, Dasilva do not BS when they recommend parts.
They really do R&D and use and recommend only what works.
If they don’t have confidence they will not sell or recommend it.
I’ve posted these before, but here is Joe Dasilva’s personal Coyote swap test mule.
If they say they have done 15 that means they have done at least that many.
I took these pictures myself.
Not stolen from internet.
That swap was cleaner than if Ford had done it at the factory themselves.
Sorry Gerry, I’m sure 04 spindles will work as you say but am confident information about brakes shared by Dasilva is accurate as well.
They really do R&D and use and recommend only what works.
If they don’t have confidence they will not sell or recommend it.
I’ve posted these before, but here is Joe Dasilva’s personal Coyote swap test mule.
If they say they have done 15 that means they have done at least that many.
I took these pictures myself.
Not stolen from internet.
That swap was cleaner than if Ford had done it at the factory themselves.
Sorry Gerry, I’m sure 04 spindles will work as you say but am confident information about brakes shared by Dasilva is accurate as well.
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Marc I don't doubt what your saying, BUT 
Car above as example is a drag set up, which tends
to be most of Dasilvas fox builds. We did have a conversation
and said brakes would cost more and I would have to go to 18" wheels.
Also on stock Spindals wilwood makes match set of front rear brakes, so much
easier to put together and set up, so makes good sense to advise,
That said they are 4 pot fronts and with stock spindals can't put 6 pots on fronts.
Also max rotors are 11" with 04 can go to 13"
Also engineer from Maximum was the other person besides Gerry who recommended
04 spindals, they desinged and build the suspension that will go on car and they don't
care about my costs, only best working set up. Other person that leaned to 95 cobra set up
is mix of both, brakes are enough and some cost savings.
For me, yes cost is a factor, but performance is number one. being .75" wider with bigger brakes
normally means wider track, better handling with better brakes, and yes it will cost more, so question becomes
how much do you gain for about a $1000 more in costs??
Car above as example is a drag set up, which tends
to be most of Dasilvas fox builds. We did have a conversation
and said brakes would cost more and I would have to go to 18" wheels.
Also on stock Spindals wilwood makes match set of front rear brakes, so much
easier to put together and set up, so makes good sense to advise,
That said they are 4 pot fronts and with stock spindals can't put 6 pots on fronts.
Also max rotors are 11" with 04 can go to 13"
Also engineer from Maximum was the other person besides Gerry who recommended
04 spindals, they desinged and build the suspension that will go on car and they don't
care about my costs, only best working set up. Other person that leaned to 95 cobra set up
is mix of both, brakes are enough and some cost savings.
For me, yes cost is a factor, but performance is number one. being .75" wider with bigger brakes
normally means wider track, better handling with better brakes, and yes it will cost more, so question becomes
how much do you gain for about a $1000 more in costs??
05 gt 5spd
On the road again
As usual it’s all about the total package - the k member, the arms, the spindles, rotors and brakes - need to work together and stay in budget. Make the best choices with the freshest information on what’s available and then order - put it together and if something else come available re-evaluate and decide again!
helimech
Well-known member
I would go with Maximum and Gerry and say 96-04 spindles. The steering arm is lower offering better bumpsteer characteristics. Maximum has a section that goes over the advantages/disadvantages of each. I would also order the longer front control arms (sn95) to get more neg camber if you haven't ordered the maximum front control arms (fox) yet.
67 AGAIN
Enthusiast
You’re right. Dasilva’s past is all drag racing.
Just getting into road coursing in recent years.
That car is all drag setup.
Clean engine bay though.
I know next to nothing about Fox cars.
I defer.
But I prescribe to handling, braking and ability to road course.
Based on info above here, wider stance, provisions for larger rotors(critical for heat management) and larger calipers, better bump steer characteristics and choice of control arms for camber, I would be all over the 04 spindles.
$1000 bucks on brakes on overall budget of build is going to be peanuts in the end.
If you want to play, you got to pay.
And you’re also right about Maximum Motorsports.
They know their handling stuff, and would know what works on a road course.
Just getting into road coursing in recent years.
That car is all drag setup.
Clean engine bay though.
I know next to nothing about Fox cars.
I defer.
But I prescribe to handling, braking and ability to road course.
Based on info above here, wider stance, provisions for larger rotors(critical for heat management) and larger calipers, better bump steer characteristics and choice of control arms for camber, I would be all over the 04 spindles.
$1000 bucks on brakes on overall budget of build is going to be peanuts in the end.
If you want to play, you got to pay.
And you’re also right about Maximum Motorsports.
They know their handling stuff, and would know what works on a road course.
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It gets tough, when getting more than one opinion .
Hard not to repsepct each person's thoughts and reasons.
Why I asked for further opinions lol.
Actually having this forum with a few resident experts
is great and quite helpful. I appreciated the feed back.
Hard not to repsepct each person's thoughts and reasons.
Why I asked for further opinions lol.
Actually having this forum with a few resident experts
is great and quite helpful. I appreciated the feed back.
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Front control arms come with package,
they are 79-93 set up, non offset, stock set up
ON the maximum K member
it will move everything forward, .75 of an inch.
If I had gone with 04 version, that would have
moved everything forward 1.5 of an inch.
so major body work in order for it to go.
they are 79-93 set up, non offset, stock set up
ON the maximum K member
it will move everything forward, .75 of an inch.
If I had gone with 04 version, that would have
moved everything forward 1.5 of an inch.
so major body work in order for it to go.
helimech
Well-known member
Only going by Maximum FAQ site that states to get more neg camber you can use the 04 arms which also come in offset / non offset. 04 spindles according to Maximum add +1.5 0r so camber , plates can make up for that for street but maybe more needed for track. Good question for them, however I know you already told them you were track oriented, doubt they "steered" you wrong, but which spindles were they basing their advice on...