2025 Motorsports Racing Season.

AC Bill said:
All the rookies in F1 should make for some really interesting races. Could be costly for some teams, in spite of how the new drivers may have been cautioned. Controlling ego's can be a challenge, and they all want to prove their good, or like Sargent, their career could be short lived.
I imagine working for Flavio Briatore won't be easy..
“You need to be mentally very, very strong. Serious commitment for the job is what you need to be doing,” Briatore tells Jack Doohan.
“Everybody believes they have the magic car, driving along and you guys are relaxed, smoking a cigarette in the car. This is not happening. No more kid shit, you know? No more nyeh-nyeh-nyeh-nyeh. Now, Jesus Christ, you need to be in the top. The future of the Jack... I control you every millimeter.
Flavio might pull the team together, or, destroy it. He is a real oddball with an even huger ego now he's been allowed back into F1.
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Your right, Flavo is tough and a bit different, Doonan is in tough spot,
so far he has dealt with it well, but he is on the hot seat and never did a race.
they have 4 reserve drivers, not normal.

ANother interesting one to watch is LAwson and Yuki.
Max is a teammate killer, how does Lawson do?
So far Yuki is faster than all of them including Max in P1 and P2
 
Such a rotten situation for Bearman, crashing so hard in the first practice like that. That was an expensive repair for HAAS, who's other driver showing pretty slow laps during practice.
Yuki has proved he can drive pretty good when he's not in his own head, He may have been thinking that if he does really well in RB, and Lawson does poorly in Red Bull, he may end up as Max's partner before the end of the 2025 season. I believe he is pretty miffed he wasn't already chosen for that seat a the end of last season.
On the other hand, RB's new F1 rookie driver Hadjar, managed a 9th in FP1, and an astounding 6th in FP2, so perhaps RB has made some dramatic improvements to their cars, and it's not all Yuki's driving skills. Apparently both were running very light fuel loads during FP2, so that likely played a role too.
 
Lawson is the only driver to never have done any laps in Australia.
so bit more of a learning curve, max was slower than Yuki
I suspect some issues with red bull

Your right about Bearman, tough first stint, I like him and not to much pressure
with first race, everyone sorting out cars, 6 rookies and some drivers changing teams
should be a bit wild and also calling for rain Sunday, hmmm Max likes rain'

This race will give us some indications but far to early to mean anything.
Also with last year for this gen car and as close as they were last year,
could be some invcrediblely close racing this year.

Should make for a great season and at some point teams have to shift focus from these cars to 2026
those at the back will do that quicker, hoping to gain some advantage next year.

Next years car is going to be complicated and with budgets, sooner you switch more money
you get to throw at it, so that adds another element to this year.
 
OMG! Bearman's start to the 2025 F1 season couldn't get much worse could it? Pretty well have to run over a team member to top his string of bad luck.:oops:
Congrats to McLaren who's drivers qualified for pole and 2nd...... but we all know how good Max is on a start, and George will be right there to stick his foot in given half the chance.
It has been said more than once that rain can even the playing field, but after watching Max starting in 17th, and then go on to win last year's São Paulo Grand Prix, I'm not sure that is true. Hamilton is also a master in the wet, so if it rains for today's race, it could get really interesting. They both are at the top of the field when it comes to driving in the rain.
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Suppose to rain, whcih does make for interesting race,
Guess only bad for teams is data they get from rain race, helps less moving car forward.
I am looking forward to this, should be fun to watch.

A litt surpized Ferrari is a bit off, reat does not surprise me at all.
Mid pack closer to front top 4 tighter, should be good for fans.
 
Great weekend for F1 fans. A lot of excitement watching how the teams/drivers are working to improve. The rookies had a chance to show there skills this time. Quite sad Alfonso was out so early in the race, and I was a bit surprised how Sainz struggled. Disqualified completely seems a little harsh ffor the infractions Ferrarri is accused of. Leclerc's car was 1kg under the 800kg car weight limit and Hamilton's plank underneath the car had excessive wear by half a millimetre. I thought perhaps a fine, or a starting position penalty in the next race might be more appropriate. I'm sure the other teams wouldn't agree with me lol..
Nice to see Oscar doing so well. There has been a lot of conjecture by the pundits about how McLaren needs to chose the dominant driver of the two, and give him more opportunity. For quite awhile it sounded like they felt that not doing so, hindered Norris's opportunities. It appears at this point at least, that Norris isn't necessarily the lead driver for the team. I love that Zack so far is giving both a free lead.

I see Horner has been asked a few questions about Lawson's place with the Red Bull team. I think it's a bit premature to judge him, but I'm sure it's raised others to ask the same question. I wonder if this was just Sky Sports trying to stir the pot?

Liam Lawson responded after Yuki Tsunoda said he would be 100% ready for a switch to Red Bull.

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https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/1...noda-for-japanese-grand-prix?dicbo=v2-MLGxR86
 
you really have to read F-1 news like normal news careful
more posts are done to stir pot then tell the complete truth.
Not really lying, just beding or adding, changing of words
leaves fans to run wild.

Ferrari goes after FOM after they did not release all the radio messages,
Hamilton message saying to team first he should let Charles by he was losing pace.
Leave that message out and it looks like Hamilton is being difficult.

millions of Ferrari fans up in arms. funny how one thing not said chnges Narrative.

Lots of pressure on young / slash new drivers and only 2 races in.
so much money and global stage, so much pressure, perform and quick or
seat could be gone, F-1 has always been this way, just never this fast.

Maclaren have enough dominance to start season, as long as both race clean , let them go.
I think Norris is better we will see.

Can anyone catch them this year?
at what point tdo they stop and spend money on 2026?
 
Tsunoda must be beside himself, finally given the opportunity to race for the Red Bull team, (especially in Japan), as he has so direly wanted.
But...it could all backfire on him too. Does he believe he can get better results just because of the car?
According to the pundits, these cars are much more on the edge and less forgiving, than the Racing Bulls cars. Tsunoda has improved the last few years, but may not be skilled enough to the degree that he can run with the big dogs in F1. Where does he go if he doesn't meet the standards Red Bull wants? Do they bring in a back-up driver, and drop Yuki back to Racing Bulls, and Lawson is given the boot altogether?

I'm sure many drivers believe they could be winners if only they were in a different car, but is that all it takes to win. The difference has to be the drivers skills, not just the car's performance, or F1 racing isn't fair racing. If some cars perform so much better than others, and the driver wasn't the big factor, why is it all 10 teams are considered in the same F1 classification. Perhaps there should be an A class and a B class designation if they are so different performance wise? Cars of like performance run in one class or the other, and receive their own class trophies, and championship points as they do in other forms of racing, (such as WEC/IMSA).
Seriously, wouldn't that be the fair thing to do if the car's performances are so much different? How else would it be considered fair? It's like having an CFL team playing against a high school league.

Having always been a fan of World Cup downhill ski racing, I often felt that the order in which skiers took their turn at the slope was unfair. At every event the fastest skiers were always given a crack at the slope when it was still in it's prime condition, and freshly groomed. The slower skiers ran after the course had been well chewed up. The result being that once again, they were in the bottom times. I felt some of them may well have finished with far better results, if they were only given the opportunity to run the hill while it was still in prime condition. How about you run the slower skiers first, and the top skiers last? A complete reverse order in other words.

Back in my days of enjoying racing at the old Westwood racing circuit, one of the features I loved about the races there was that they ran multi-class cars during the same race. The faster cars started the race at the rear of the pack, slower cars at the front. There was an award for the overall winner, but trophies were given out to the winners of each class as well. It made for some very exciting races.
 
AC Bill said:
Back in my days of enjoying racing at the old Westwood racing circuit, one of the features I loved about the races there was that they ran multi-class cars during the same race. The faster cars started the race at the rear of the pack, slower cars at the front. There was an award for the overall winner, but trophies were given out to the winners of each class as well. It made for some very exciting races.
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That’s what I like about IMSA and Weathertech races, 4 classes of cars on the track at the same time and the faster cars don’t necessarily get a free pass around the slower cars if the slower cars are battling each other for position
 
For Tsunado its his shot at a top team.
it could prove he deserves it or destroy him.
But ever driver on a lower team would take that shot, its thier egos
that make them want it and some deliver on it.

All the drivers believe they are the best, you have to, to even be at that level.
F-1 has the same rules for all teams and now even a budget cap to help bring it closer
and one could argue it has worked or is it the length of rules being the same for so long?

F-1 is the elite, but not just drivers, engineers, designers, to a team in some cases of 1400 people
Small teams have 4-500 it makes a difference. and just how smart they are on such small changes as
anyone who really watches knows, one tweak one way or the other is a tenth, that is difference over race distance of winning or finishing
6th. But drivers are not created equal, Even Now, like him or not, Max is showing what can be done with a car
that is a bit slower.

If you have never been to an F-1 race, this next part is hard to explain. they actually slow things down with Cameras
so on TV people can watch it, angles, speeds etc. Live it is incredibly different and you realize as good as the top 6-8 are
you also realize how good the guys are who run in the bottom 5 and its far closer than it ever looks.

Cars, people and those who adapt to conditions the best are in the top cars with the best people and the most money.
One example, Hamliton is known for Adjusting the brakes for each corner of the track while he is racing,
I have a hard time fathoming the ability to do that at the speeds these cars travel at.
The braking and pure accelaration is unreal when you see it live.
 
I wasn't aware that Gasly was also disqualified because of weight issues, at the China Grand Prix.
Article 4.1 of the Technical Regulations relates to the minimum weight of an F1 car.
“The mass of the car, without fuel, must not be less than 800kg at any time during the competition,” reads the rulebook.

At the end of the race his car weighed exactly 800kg's, so it met the requirement initially, but when they drained the remaining fuel it weighed 799kg. Leclerc's penalty was for the same thing. After 2 litres of fuel remaining at the end of the race was drained, his car also car weighed 799kg.

How could either car have even competed without any fuel in them? Wouldn't they would always weigh at least 800kg while actually racing?..So in my mind, they technically would not have weighed less than 800kg's at any time during the competition as the rule states. The rule as stated is absurd, as how could the mass of the car without any fuel even run?
 
AC Bill said:
Tsunoda must be beside himself, finally given the opportunity to race for the Red Bull team, (especially in Japan), as he has so direly wanted.
But...it could all backfire on him too. Does he believe he can get better results just because of the car?
According to the pundits, these cars are much more on the edge and less forgiving, than the Racing Bulls cars. Tsunoda has improved the last few years, but may not be skilled enough to the degree that he can run with the big dogs in F1. Where does he go if he doesn't meet the standards Red Bull wants? Do they bring in a back-up driver, and drop Yuki back to Racing Bulls, and Lawson is given the boot altogether?

I'm sure many drivers believe they could be winners if only they were in a different car, but is that all it takes to win. The difference has to be the drivers skills, not just the car's performance, or F1 racing isn't fair racing. If some cars perform so much better than others, and the driver wasn't the big factor, why is it all 10 teams are considered in the same F1 classification. Perhaps there should be an A class and a B class designation if they are so different performance wise? Cars of like performance run in one class or the other, and receive their own class trophies, and championship points as they do in other forms of racing, (such as WEC/IMSA).
Seriously, wouldn't that be the fair thing to do if the car's performances are so much different? How else would it be considered fair? It's like having an CFL team playing against a high school league.

Having always been a fan of World Cup downhill ski racing, I often felt that the order in which skiers took their turn at the slope was unfair. At every event the fastest skiers were always given a crack at the slope when it was still in it's prime condition, and freshly groomed. The slower skiers ran after the course had been well chewed up. The result being that once again, they were in the bottom times. I felt some of them may well have finished with far better results, if they were only given the opportunity to run the hill while it was still in prime condition. How about you run the slower skiers first, and the top skiers last? A complete reverse order in other words.

Back in my days of enjoying racing at the old Westwood racing circuit, one of the features I loved about the races there was that they ran multi-class cars during the same race. The faster cars started the race at the rear of the pack, slower cars at the front. There was an award for the overall winner, but trophies were given out to the winners of each class as well. It made for some very exciting races.
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It’s always fun on the series where they start in reverse order.
 
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