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The problem with all this is they never compare apples to apples. An ICE can last for 20 years or more. An EV will be going through a second set of batteries in that time. That's twice the amount of carbon produced. As well, who in their right mind would buy a 10 year old EV? The economics...

I agree 100%. 66% of the world's electricity comes from fossil fuels. The lithium mines are using child labour in third world countries and the actual mining of lithium and cobalt creates a massive amount of CO2.

Right on.

If you don't like ICE's you're in the wrong group! All the best.

How about Yahoo Finance? https://finance.yahoo.com/news/electric-vehicles-draining-billions-profitable-151050558.html

How about Reuters? https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-joins-gm-ford-slowing-ev-factory-ramp-demand-fears-spread-2023-10-19/

Ok, how about CNN? This is real. https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/17/business/gm-delaying-ev-truck-second-plant/index.html

I knew this was going to happen https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/gunter-green-power-initiatives-losing-steam

If you are planning anything for October, let us know.

Yes agreed.

Ok I keep seeing this commercial and it seems too good to be true. Anyone know about this product...

Really looking forward to it.

I find this GTD to be a strange move forward for Ford. With the new C8, I thought Ford would come out with a mid engined rival at around the same price that isn't a Mustang. Maybe call it a Ford GT Shelby or whatever. They need to take on the C8 and they have the know how to do it.

Rob Michael and Mona Yammine in for both.

They're saying around $250,000. I'm not sure if that is accurate.

https://fordauthority.com/2023/08/ford-to-debut-mid-engine-mustang-this-thursday-exclusive/